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The New Progressives -- something new under the sun??

Mon Feb 8, 2010 11:40 PM EST
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By DScott Anthony
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The obama movement has spurred a debate over what to call these members of the new left? Liberals, leftists, socialists, radicals? I've noticed that many on the left have seized on the term "Progressive" and that seems fitting. The obama-ites are not liberals, but have a much more aggressive agenda toward collectivization and income redistribution.

The term progressive has a long history, but one of the high (or low) points of the progressive movement was the formation of the Progressive Party of 1948. Led by former Vice President Henry Wallace, and motivated by the communist scare and the activities of the House Un American Activities Committee, these left-of-center americans broke with the Truman Administration and plunged ahead with even more aggressive New Deal programs.

The party ran Henry Wallace from Iowa for President, and Idaho Senator Taylor as Vice President. "The Wallace/Taylor ticket was also supported by several other small parties, such as the American Labor Party (ALP) of New York. Wallace's platform advocated an end to segregation, full voting rights for blacks, and universal government health insurance." (Wikipedia article, cited below)

"The Communist Party USA did not field a presidential candidate, and instead endorsed Wallace for President; given that the Cold War was beginning to gain momentum and with it the Red Scare and anti-Communist sentiment, this endorsement was to hinder Wallace far more than it would help him. Wallace had served Franklin D. Roosevelt as Secretary of Agriculture, Vice President, and Secretary of Commerce. He was fired by President Harry S. Truman because he denounced Truman's foreign policy regarding the Cold War. When Wallace refused to expel Communists working in the party during the 1948 election, his campaign was severely criticized by both the rigidly anti-Communist Truman and Dewey camps."

We see that even in 1948, at the height of the cold war, the "progressives" had an easy, even accomodating attitude toward communists and communist sympathizers, known then by the term "fellow travelers."

The Wikipedia article continues to explore the communist agenda being forwarded by the progressives of 1948:

"Historians have disputed the degree to which Communists shaped the party. All agree that Wallace himself was not a Communist, but they also agree that he paid very little attention to internal party affairs. Historians Schapsmeier and Schapsmeier argue (1970 p 181)

"Progressive party stood for one thing and Wallace another. Actually the party organization was controlled from the outset by those representing the radical left and not liberalism per se. This made it extremely easy for Communists and fellow travelers to infiltrate into important positions within the party machinery. Once this happened, party stands began to resemble a party line. Campaign literature, speech materials, and campaign slogans sounded strangely like echoes of what Moscow wanted to hear. As if wearing moral blinkers, Wallace increasingly became an imperceptive ideologue. Words were uttered by Wallace that did not sound like him, and his performance took on a strange Jekyll and Hyde quality—one moment he was a peace protagonist and the next a propaganda parrot for the Kremlin.

"One historian (further to the left than the Schapsmeiers) explores the internal dynamic (Schmidt 258–9):

"At one pole were the extreme leftists, three closely related groups—admitted Communists, past and present; the party-liners and fellow travelers who failed to differ noticeably with the Communists as to either policy or principle; and finally those non-Communists who, in … 1944–50 failed to take issue with the Communists on policy, but whose underlying principles seemingly differed….
In the middle were grouped an apparently large majority of Progressive Party followers—the moderates. Exemplified by both national candidates, these individuals were willing to accept Communist support, because they felt that it was inconsistent, in the light of their ideals, to oppose Redbaiting by others, yet attempt to read Communists out of the new party. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_(United_States,_1948)

The Atlantic Monthly published an article in 1948 about the Progressive Party and Henry Wallace, which is available online.

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/194808/henry-wallace

The author of the article, Osler Petersen, was also an FDR New Dealer, and associate of Wallace's. He writes how Wallace took a stand, refusing to fire Alger Hiss for reported Soviet ties. Of course, the article was written before the famous Alger Hiss trial, where Hiss was found guilty of perjury in January 1950. Even without the rear-view mirror knowledge we have of the Hiss case, Peterson is highly critical of the Progressive Party, and of it's nominee Henry Wallace:

"It is not a Communist Party campaign, despite the closeness with which he has hewn to the Kremlin's Party line and despite the number of Party members and Party-liners manning the machinery of the campaign. Wallace turned a deaf ear to many of his friends and former associates who pleaded with him not to take the step. But their earnest arguments were deflected by the Communist and other voices, both from outside and from within himself, which impel Wallace on."

Further, the Atlantic article's description of how the progressives tried to create a messiah-like cult around the former Iowa pig farmer running for President is eerily reminiscient of how obama was handled by his "progressive" advisors during the campaign and even as president:

"The techniques of his mass meetings at Madison Square Garden and elsewhere are designed to play on people's emotions and cloud their judgment—the single spotlight in the darkened auditorium focused on the lone speaker (the holy leader) surrounded by a battery of microphones on a platform in the center of the vast assemblage rising tier on tier on all sides of it; the organized chants through a loud-speaker system proclaiming the urgency of the need and the self-sacrificing courage of the savior eager to lead humanity to salvation; the spotlight ceremony of lighting the path of the savior when he threads his way among the multitude to and from the platform amid the exulting cheers of his followers. These techniques are a far cry from the old torchlight parades and other traditional methods employed by Theodore Roosevelt in his 1912 Bull Moose effort to reach the White House and by Senior Bob La Follette in his 1924 campaign. They are borrowed from the Sportpalast in Berlin and the Red Square in Moscow and a modern technology applied to make the individual sink his identity in the herd. "

The Progressive Party of 1948 won no electoral votes. With the tension between the US and the Soviet Union running high, and with US troops bogged down in North Korea, there was little sympathy for the pro-communists and "fellow travelers" who made up the Progressive Party then. Sixty years later, the Soviet Union has collapsed. The obama progressive are running their candidate with exactly the same image as they ran their 1948 candidate, and with most of the same agenda. Ayers, Flanagan, Wright, Axelrod, Emanuel , Mr. and Mrs obama, and most of the member of the obama politburo of czars and advisors -- they are all cut from the same cloth as the fellow travelers and open communists of the 1948 election. Lacking the mirror image of them in Moscow, however, americans seem puzzled how to respond to slogans their parents and grandparents rejected out of hand.

Hiss, the Rosenbergs, Klaus Fuchs and Henry Wallace are long dead. As are those people who stood against them in 1948: Truman, Nixon, Hoover. Without a historical context, the progressive might seem harmless -- even their rabid partisan attacks against everyone from joe the plumber, miss california and sarah palin might seem just more of the same old politics. Wake up america. These people, from obama down, are not "more of the same". They are pushing a stalinist agenda, with stalinist tactics.

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DScott Anthony

If any good comes from obama's administration, it will be that the american people get a first hand look at the radicalization of the university system. The politburo of czars and advisors obama has gathered makes murder incorporated look like a sunday school class.

While few of the contemporary radical leftists will cite lenin or marx, they are as dangerous as any card-carrying communists from the 30s or 40s. More dangerous, because the theories of foucalt, chomsky, benjamin, alinsky; and even those lesser minds like west and gates; are unknown to the average american. Under the protection of feudal academic fiefdoms, radical leftists are indoctrinating america's children into the worst kind of extremism -- and most parents are unaware it is happening.

  • 7 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 12:07 AM EST
Sgt W

DScott Anthony,

Interesting read... thanks

Further, I would suggest reading through this CPUSA. Do a search on this site for the term Progressive. Interesting reading to be sure.

Have fun

John

  • 5 votes
#1.1 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 12:20 AM EST
vol fan in chatt, tn

I totally agree. Good piece!

  • 8 votes
#1.2 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 1:04 AM EST
Paul William Tenny

The obama movement has spurred a debate over what to call these members of the new left? Liberals, leftists, socialists, radicals?

Hard to know where to even begin.

Socialists? Pick up a dictionary and learn something. Socialists advocate public ownership of property and industry. Venezuela (more favorably viewed by Americans than the Republican Party) is socialist because the state owns most of its oil industry (and parts of others). Nobody in America is advocating actual socialism, so drop it. It's getting pretty embarrassing for you guys to keep ranting about things you clearly don't understand.

New left? Same as the old. A woman's right to choose what happens to her own body, workers rights, anti-unnecessary wars, supporting democracy at home and civil liberties.

Radicals? Grow up.

The only thing that has changed in recent years is the radicalization of the Republican party. Did you see the results of the R2K poll? 23% of Republicans hate America so much that they want their state to secede from it.

73% are such raging, hateful and ignorant bigots that they want gays banned from being teachers in public schools.

31% want contraceptives outlawed.

76% think abortion is murder and yet 91% support the death penalty.

4% – representing about 2.2 million Republicans in America – think women shouldn't be allowed to work outside of the home.

If there is a threat from radicalization, it's coming from the right, not the left. The left is not that bat@!$%# insane.

The obama-ites are not liberals, but have a much more aggressive agenda toward collectivization and income redistribution.

The spin is so thick that it's choking people off. Income redistribution? The Wall Street bailout which transferred over $700 billion dollars to Wall Street bankers was President Bush's idea, and had the backing of Republican leaders in Congress. No, we will never, ever let you forget that so long as you insist on parroting John McCain's failed talking points from 2008.

You'd think that after harping on this garbage and then losing – badly – that Republicans would be intelligent enough to change their message away from protecting Wall Street at the expense of main street.

I guess not.

The Wikipedia article continues to explore the communist agenda being forwarded by the progressives of 1948:

You want to go back to your fake progressives and communism? Maybe I should go back to Republicans lynching black people and dragging them behind their iconic pickup trucks. Why let half a century get in the way when there's smearing to be had?

FYI, the politics of character assassination and lying is why Republicans lost in 2006, in 2008, and will probably stay in the minority for years to come. Learn something from your failures to suffer the consequences of blind partisan hatred on your own.

  • 6 votes
#1.3 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 10:58 AM EST
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DScott Anthony

Maybe I should go back to Republicans lynching black people and dragging them behind their iconic pickup trucks. Why let half a century get in the way when there's smearing to be had?

You are miles off the topic, and none of your posts relates to the 1948 progressive party, or the self-proclaimed progressives of today.

I would remind you that it was democrats, not republicans, who launched the kkk and kept blacks down with segregation and jim crow laws for a century. It is democrats today who keep blacks trapped in stereotypes of ignorance and victimhood as well. For blacks and dems, any black who does not have a violent felony on his record simply does not have any "street cred." dems and black democrats sing the cultural praises of the most vile rappers, while attacking outstanding blacks like condi rice, justice thomas or the scholar thomas sowell as "oreos" or race traitors.

Do you have anything to say relevant to the article though?

  • 7 votes
#1.5 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 8:13 PM EST
Paul William Tenny

You are miles off the topic, and none of your posts relates to the 1948 progressive party, or the self-proclaimed progressives of today.

I directly addressed your words, not my fault if you think rebutting your silly claims is off-topic.

I would remind you that it was democrats, not republicans, who launched the kkk and kept blacks down with segregation and jim crow laws for a century.

Uh, no, that would be Dixicrats, people who left the Democratic party when the Democratic party became intolerant of racism and joined the GOP. Why is it you think racism is most prevalent in the south, while the south is overwhelmingly conservative and Republican?

Why is it do you think that the Republican party hasn't elected a black man or woman to Congress in nine years? I don't think there are any in the Senate at all at this point.

For blacks and dems, any black who does not have a violent felony on his record simply does not have any "street cred." dems and black democrats sing the cultural praises of the most vile rappers, while attacking outstanding blacks like condi rice, justice thomas or the scholar thomas sowell as "oreos" or race traitors.

..that's racist. Wow. Comment marked as inflammatory.

  • 2 votes
#1.6 - Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:00 PM EST
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ScienceGuy-356641

Progressives are stalinists?

I guess when you're in a "maintain the status quo" train standing still on the track, any adjacent train moving forward will appear to be traveling exceedingly fast. But it's all an illusion.

  • 3 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 1:11 AM EST
relentlesscomedy

For a guy with the moniker "science guy" You never seem to have any facts...or even insightful remarks to back you up. Oh yeah, and your sad smugness will not change history.

  • 10 votes
#2.1 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 1:53 AM EST
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katlin

good piece ..we are becoming educated to what they are and what they want to hide. we must remain vigulent in spotting these traitors to america..currently they are hiding behind the democratic party label..

  • 7 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 2:06 AM EST
The Republic of Stupidity

we are becoming educated to remain VIGULENT?

The irony is astonishing, to say the least.

  • 3 votes
#3.1 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 2:27 AM EST
relentlesscomedyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

When typing in a hurry ANYONE could miss a letter in a word. So get over yourself.....and if your name implies the progressives are stupid then we agree on that. Or is stupidity just your last name?

  • 9 votes
#3.2 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 2:36 AM EST
DScott Anthony

I agree Kat and RC. One of the most disturbing parts of this story is the transformation of the democratic party. In 1948, the leftists had to break away from that right wing fascist, Harry Truman, to start their own progressive party. 20 years later, in 1968, the leftists took to the streets and drove another democratic president, LBJ, out of office. By 2008, the leftists had taken over the democratic party completely, and elected one of their own as president.

It gives a new understanding of the "red menace" that most americans were afraid of in the last century.

  • 6 votes
#3.3 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 8:00 AM EST
Paul William Tenny

When typing in a hurry ANYONE could miss a letter in a word. So get over yourself.....and if your name implies the progressives are stupid then we agree on that. Or is stupidity just your last name?

Inflammatory, no value, and petty all in the same package. Way to uphold the spirit of #1 of the Code of Honor:

Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

  • 3 votes
#3.4 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 11:03 AM EST
relentlesscomedy

Okay Mr.Tenny....you want play hall monitor? Fine let me slap you with reality.

For one thing, no matter how thinly veiled it was anyone with common sense would have to say The Republic of Stupidity insulted katlin.

Secondly, calling progressives in-general stupid is not against the COH. I guess you have not noticed all the newsviners calling repubs and conservatives racist and stupid.

Thirdly, The last part of the man..or womans newsvine name is stupidity.

Thanks for playing....but in the game of common sense...you just lost.

  • 3 votes
#3.5 - Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:24 PM EST
Paul William Tenny

Secondly, calling progressives in-general stupid is not against the COH

No, but this is:

Or is stupidity just your last name?

  • 1 vote
#3.6 - Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:08 PM EST
relentlesscomedy

Again, you are ignoring the fact that stupidity is his last name on newsvine.

Which makes my question legit. So, get over it or run to Tyler and let him decide.

  • 3 votes
#3.7 - Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:21 PM EST
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The Republic of Stupidity

So many words... to say... basically nothing.

  • 3 votes
Reply#4 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 2:27 AM EST
Paul William Tenny

Too many Repubs want a return to McCarthyism and the looming thread of global war. Nothing makes them more excited and happy than the power they suck from the American people when they terrorize us all with bogeymen that will come Slaughter Us All if we don't make the GOP a bunch of kings, not subject to the law, the Constitution, or any sense of morality.

  • 2 votes
#4.1 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 11:06 AM EST
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whatanoddguy

If any good comes from obama's administration, it will be that the american people get a first hand look at the radicalization of the university system. The politburo of czars and advisors obama has gathered makes murder incorporated look like a sunday school class.

While few of the contemporary radical leftists will cite lenin or marx, they are as dangerous as any card-carrying communists from the 30s or 40s. More dangerous, because the theories of foucalt, chomsky, benjamin, alinsky; and even those lesser minds like west and gates; are unknown to the average american. Under the protection of feudal academic fiefdoms, radical leftists are indoctrinating america's children into the worst kind of extremism -- and most parents are unaware it is happening.

There's nothing I love more than right wingers pissing and moaning about the left wing bias of college campuses. Newsflash, your guys have been calling intellectuals effette, ivory tower snobs for the last 50 years or so. Science and evidence is rejected with such a passion, it's as if studying an issue makes your opinion irrelevant. Are you really that surprised that academics aren't rushing to your side with open arms? Are you surprised that conservatives aren't rushing into academia when their leaders claim that it is corrupt and out of touch?

And I've never seen any indoctrination going on in college classes. I've been in plenty of classes where I strongly disagreed with the professor on one point or another and they knew about it. As long as you made a coherent argument which you supported well, you can disagree with almost any teacher and get an A.

  • 3 votes
Reply#5 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 2:47 AM EST
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bondibox

So to sum up your article. 'The progressive party was formed by Henry Wallace, a man who was not a Communist, and refused to adopt the Communist agenda for his party. But he did speak at Madison Square Garden, under a lone spotlight with a battery of microphones, thus proving his Soviet-style underpinnings.'

Now I'd like for someone to point out where, historically (and I'm not talking about the holocaust) has the Communist ideology led to the downfall of society? It's reminiscent of the "Communist Sympathizers" during the McCarthy era: How can you look back, knowing what you do now, and conclude that the "Communist Sympathizers" were on the wrong side of the argument? Even if I disagreed with their ideology, I'd have been a "Communist Sympathizers" too because everyone under the grips of Red Scare was an @!$%#.

  • 3 votes
Reply#7 - Tue Feb 9, 2010 6:59 AM EST
Darkdonnie

Now I'd like for someone to point out where, historically (and I'm not talking about the holocaust) has the Communist ideology led to the downfall of society?

I would say the 50,000,000 dead caused by communism and Stalin would say that it is not the "a shining city on a hill"that they hoped for. And subsequently to Stalin Russia was not a leader in human rights, environmental rights or any individual rights at all. And as such is considered a dismal failure of a society. "Thats why its easy"

  • 4 votes
#7.1 - Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:37 PM EST
bondibox

I'll give you partial credit. I don't think it's fair to pin the reputation of Communism upon the acts of one single person ... the Genocide and narcissism aside, Stalin's reign did result in the worst famine in Soviet history. But the famine was really started by collectivism in agriculture, and not communism. Moreover, Stalin's response to the meager results of collectivism was more genocide. So I'll grant you this - under the reign of a maniacal, murderous dictator, Communism was perverted into an ineffectual, semi-fascist failure.

    #7.2 - Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:23 PM EST
    katlin

    and N. Korea is a freakin paradise right..?...how about that MAO, now there's a good ole commie for ya. castro, need we say more ? all communist countries if memory serves.. for the people that have to live under them I'm sure they would not say they are a raging success..

    what do they have in common ? a power over the people, an arrogance that we know how to run your life better than you, a share the wealth mentality only the top don't share..sound familiar? sounds like obam's dream..

    • 2 votes
    #7.3 - Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:05 PM EST
    bondibox

    Great, you picked out the Communist dictators from the Marxist states. So of course you're saying that in every case where there's been communism, there's been a Marxist-Leninist dictator and if the U.S. were to adopt communist policies (the red scare behind your argument) then our president would therefore turn into a tyrannical dictator. Right?

    Why don't you tell me what's wrong with Portugal, India or Egypt?

    • 1 vote
    #7.4 - Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:27 PM EST
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    Darkdonnie

    This too has been one of the dark places of the earth.......

    And you can find it in everyone. It is the denial or taming of the tendencies to forcefully dominate that differentiate us from the lesser beast does it not? Mr Conrad seems to understand that.

    DScott Anthony, Nice job, well written!

    • 5 votes
    Reply#8 - Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:49 PM EST
    DScott Anthony

    Always nice to find someone who appreciate Conrad's genius... thanks..

    • 2 votes
    #8.1 - Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:40 PM EST
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    Nasty Liberal

    Teddy Roosevelt was a commie too, or at least a pinko... am I right? Do I understand you correctly?

      Reply#9 - Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:04 AM EDT
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